Hello, I am testing the EpiData system as a possible solution for data management for a nutrition cohort study. I have been able to set up a dataform and create groups and users using the Extended Access capabilities. I am however unable to define entry rights (CTRL E) on the my test data form, when I click on it using the point click option or control E absolutely nothing happens and the window I expect to show up as shown in the page 4 (Step 3) of attached PDF does not appear. Anyone else experienced this problem? Or am I missing something? Edna
Are you using Manager to create the entry rights for the group, which entry users will be members of?
Best wishes Jens Lauritsen EpiData Association
Den 4. marts 2020 12.00.29 CET, EpiData development and support epidata-list@lists.umanitoba.ca skrev:
Hello, I am testing the EpiData system as a possible solution for data management for a nutrition cohort study. I have been able to set up a dataform and create groups and users using the Extended Access capabilities. I am however unable to define entry rights (CTRL E) on the my test data form, when I click on it using the point click option or control E absolutely nothing happens and the window I expect to show up as shown in the page 4 (Step 3) of attached PDF does not appear. Anyone else experienced this problem? Or am I missing something? Edna
Yes. Using Manager where I have set up a data entry group beneath the default admin group. I have defined two users the admin one withe rights to everything and the data entry user who is in the data entry group only and as a result doesn't have any of the listed rights the admin has. When I click on my data dataform and try to define entry rights nothing happens. The window doesn't pop up at all so I can define those rights. Edna
On Wed, 4 Mar 2020, 16:04 EpiData development and support, < epidata-list@lists.umanitoba.ca> wrote:
Are you using Manager to create the entry rights for the group, which entry users will be members of?
Best wishes Jens Lauritsen EpiData Association
Den 4. marts 2020 12.00.29 CET, EpiData development and support < epidata-list@lists.umanitoba.ca> skrev:
Hello, I am testing the EpiData system as a possible solution for data management for a nutrition cohort study. I have been able to set up a dataform and create groups and users using the Extended Access capabilities. I am however unable to define entry rights (CTRL E) on the my test data form, when I click on it using the point click option or control E absolutely nothing happens and the window I expect to show up as shown in the page 4 (Step 3) of attached PDF does not appear. Anyone else experienced this problem? Or am I missing something? Edna
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Just following up on my query above.. I thought maybe sharing some screen shots would clarify the problem I am encountering with defining entry rights for a data entry user in epidata manager... So this is how I have set up this particular group and you can see there assigned rights.. Ideally I wouldn't even want them defining, preparing double entry or translating projects but in case the issue was that I was not assigning them any rights at all I give them these limited rights.. [image: image.png] The problem is when I then look at current entry rights below this group of users have none at all in the data form. The only way they get right s is if I make them part of the admin user group which completely defeats the purpose of having a hierarchical user system because then they can do everything the admins can? [image: image.png]
Trying to define Entry rights as shown below does not result in anything happening at all.
[image: image.png] I really like several of the features in the epidata manager and very keen to see if we can use it for our study starting in June in Northern Nigeria. With kind regards, Edna Ogada
On Wed, 4 Mar 2020 at 21:54, Edna Ogada eogada@gmail.com wrote:
Yes. Using Manager where I have set up a data entry group beneath the default admin group. I have defined two users the admin one withe rights to everything and the data entry user who is in the data entry group only and as a result doesn't have any of the listed rights the admin has. When I click on my data dataform and try to define entry rights nothing happens. The window doesn't pop up at all so I can define those rights. Edna
On Wed, 4 Mar 2020, 16:04 EpiData development and support, < epidata-list@lists.umanitoba.ca> wrote:
Are you using Manager to create the entry rights for the group, which entry users will be members of?
Best wishes Jens Lauritsen EpiData Association
Den 4. marts 2020 12.00.29 CET, EpiData development and support < epidata-list@lists.umanitoba.ca> skrev:
Hello, I am testing the EpiData system as a possible solution for data management for a nutrition cohort study. I have been able to set up a dataform and create groups and users using the Extended Access capabilities. I am however unable to define entry rights (CTRL E) on the my test data form, when I click on it using the point click option or control E absolutely nothing happens and the window I expect to show up as shown in the page 4 (Step 3) of attached PDF does not appear. Anyone else experienced this problem? Or am I missing something? Edna
-- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. _______________________________________________ EpiData-list mailing list EpiData-list@lists.umanitoba.ca http://lists.umanitoba.ca/mailman/listinfo/epidata-list
You are on the right track, but are missing a step.
The approach is:
1. define the admin user
2. define groups - you added data entry group, but DON’T give them any rights on that page (first image). The check boxes are just for the management rights.
3. define users - add a new user (name, password) and assign to the data entry group
4. define entry rights -click on your data entry user(s) and give them person Read, Update, Create rights on the ‘Current Entry Rights’ tab by clicking in those boxes; you can actually take away entry rights from an admin.
4. save the project
Jamie
On Mar 10, 2020, at 08:19,Edna wrote:
Just following up on my query above.. I thought maybe sharing some screen shots would clarify the problem I am encountering with defining entry rights for a data entry user in epidata manager... So this is how I have set up this particular group and you can see there assigned rights.. Ideally I wouldn't even want them defining, preparing double entry or translating projects but in case the issue was that I was not assigning them any rights at all I give them these limited rights.. [image: image.png] The problem is when I then look at current entry rights below this group of users have none at all in the data form. The only way they get right s is if I make them part of the admin user group which completely defeats the purpose of having a hierarchical user system because then they can do everything the admins can? [image: image.png]
Trying to define Entry rights as shown below does not result in anything happening at all.
[image: image.png] I really like several of the features in the epidata manager and very keen to see if we can use it for our study starting in June in Northern Nigeria. With kind regards, Edna Ogada
Was just about to send you the epx.. let me start again following your steps as outlined above exactly. If I don't succeed then I will send you the epx as you had requested in the previous email. I made sure to download the latest version but wondering if that could be the problem. I somehow didn't download it right? Will write back shortly. Edna
On Tue, 10 Mar 2020 at 17:02, EpiData development and support < epidata-list@lists.umanitoba.ca> wrote:
You are on the right track, but are missing a step.
The approach is:
define the admin user
define groups
- you added data entry group, but DON’T give them any rights on that
page (first image). The check boxes are just for the management rights.
define users
- add a new user (name, password) and assign to the data entry group
define entry rights -click on your data entry user(s) and give them person Read, Update,
Create rights on the ‘Current Entry Rights’ tab by clicking in those boxes; you can actually take away entry rights from an admin.
- save the project
Jamie
On Mar 10, 2020, at 08:19,Edna wrote:
Just following up on my query above.. I thought maybe sharing some screen shots would clarify the problem I am encountering with defining entry rights for a data entry user in epidata manager... So this is how I have set up this particular group and you can see there assigned rights.. Ideally I wouldn't even want them defining, preparing double entry or translating projects but in case the issue was that I was not assigning them any rights at all I give them these limited rights.. [image: image.png] The problem is when I then look at current entry rights below this
group
of users have none at all in the data form. The only way they get right s is if I make them part of the admin user group which completely defeats
the
purpose of having a hierarchical user system because then they can do everything the admins can? [image: image.png]
Trying to define Entry rights as shown below does not result in anything happening at all.
[image: image.png] I really like several of the features in the epidata manager and very
keen
to see if we can use it for our study starting in June in Northern
Nigeria.
With kind regards, Edna Ogada
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