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I am desperated
by epidata-list＠lists.umanitoba.ca 23 Jul '13

23 Jul '13

I use EpiData3.01 because I have used to the qes/chk/rec model. Now I encountered a strange problem as follow:My problem: In my project there are a series of y/n variables (0: no 1: yes 9:unkown) with default value 0. When I enter default 0 for about 40 times the EpiData goes funny.Qes and chk files are attached(I deleted rec file because the message with rec file was rejected yesterday). The error message after entering 40 of 0 for y/n variable:Access violation at address 00000000. Read of address 00000000.Many thanks and best wishes!hshxue@aliyun.com22:28 2013/7/23 ------------------------------------------------------------------发件人：epidata-list-request(a)lists.umanitoba.xn--ca:2013723-qs5qj53hohuja674bkku440d 1:00收件人：epidata-list@lists.umanitoba.ca;主　题：EpiData-list Digest, Vol 117, Issue 10 Send EpiData-list mailing list submissions to epidata-list(a)lists.umanitoba.caTo subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.umanitoba.ca/mailman/listinfo/epidata-listor, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to epidata-list-request(a)lists.umanitoba.caYou can reach the person managing the list at epidata-list-owner(a)lists.umanitoba.caWhen replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specificthan "Re: Contents of EpiData-list digest..."EpiData-list mailing list___________________________________Today's Topics: 1. odd error (epidata-list@lists.umanitoba.ca)----------------------------------------------------------------------Message: 1Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 11:31:16 +0800From: epidata-list(a)lists.umanitoba.caSubject: [EpiData-list] odd errorTo: <epidata-list(a)lists.umanitoba.ca>Message-ID: <c8395064-d34a-4ebd-933e-b4a23e9dd584(a)aliyun.com>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"I use EpiData3.01 because I have used to the qes/chk/rec model. Now I encountered a strange problemas follow:My problem: In my project there are a series of y/n variables (0: no 1: yes 9:unkown) with defaultvalue 0. When I enter default 0 for about 40 times the EpiData goes funny.all qes,chk,rec files are in the attached. The error message after entering 40 of 0 for y/nvariable:Access violation at address 00000000. Read of address 00000000.Many thanks and best wishes!hshxue@aliyun.com11:29 2013/7/22聽-------------- next part --------------A non-text attachment was scrubbed...Name: =?UTF-8?B?b250YXIucmFy?=Type: application/octet-streamSize: 3876 bytesDesc: not availableUrl : http://lists.umanitoba.ca/pipermail/epidata-list/attachments/20130721/c7e0b… of EpiData-list Digest, Vol 117, Issue 10*********************************************

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Re: EpiData-list Digest, Vol 117, Issue 9
by epidata-list＠lists.umanitoba.ca 22 Jul '13

22 Jul '13

Thank you, Katie, for the suggestion! I think missing data was the issue with the Stata format. We found a way to successfully import data into SPSS. Export the data file from EpiData Manager as a .csv file (I used the Linux setting). Using Excel, I opened a blank spreadsheet and imported the .csv file via the "add from text" option under "data". I specified that it is delimited by commas, and then changed each column from "general" format to "text" format. This was tedious but necessary because Excel automatically deletes any leading 0s upon import. If you are using these notes as instructions, DO NOT CLICK IN ANY CELL. It will revert to general format, and delete leading 0s. I saved the file as a .txt file (using MS-DOS format). Then I opened in Microsoft Word. I deleted the variable names. I then used find and replace to find "^t" and replace with "^p". SPSS doesn't like tabs, so I needed to replace all tabs with paragraphs. You can use the syntax EpiData Manager produces when exporting to SPSS, I think. Or write your own. I wrote my own, because, as noted earlier in this thread, I had variables embedded within the lines. Worked like a charm! -Natalie

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odd error
by epidata-list＠lists.umanitoba.ca 22 Jul '13

22 Jul '13

I use EpiData3.01 because I have used to the qes/chk/rec model. Now I encountered a strange problem as follow:My problem: In my project there are a series of y/n variables (0: no 1: yes 9:unkown) with default value 0. When I enter default 0 for about 40 times the EpiData goes funny.all qes,chk,rec files are in the attached. The error message after entering 40 of 0 for y/n variable:Access violation at address 00000000. Read of address 00000000. Many thanks and best wishes!hshxue@aliyun.com11:29 2013/7/22

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Field Length Issue
by epidata-list＠lists.umanitoba.ca 17 Jul '13

17 Jul '13

Hello, I am currently working to try to import data into SPSS. I created the .dat file with StatTransfer from the Stata-formatted file. Looking at the .sps file, it appears that one of my variables which should be 70 characters (and is specified as such in the EpiData Manager) contains only 1 character. I noticed this issue while rewriting the syntax to pull the data into SPSS. Our variables are embedded within the string variables (e.g., EPIVAR = 56 -> VAR1 = 5 VAR2 = 6). We used spaces as missing data. Could it be an issue with missing data? It shouldn't be, if the field is specified as 70 characters! How can this be? It is making me very anxious.

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Scripting in Manager
by epidata-list＠lists.umanitoba.ca 15 Jul '13

15 Jul '13

Using: Test version EpiData Manager: v1.5.0.10 3 NOENTER fields: id1, length 5, integer id2, length 5, integer id3, length 5, string 1 MUSTENTER field serno, length 4, integer In the field serno I type in SCRIPT, AFTER ENTRY: id1 := serno; DEFINE id2Temp: integer; id2Temp := serno+1000; id2 := id2Temp; id3 := string(serno); Result in EpiData Entry Client: id1: correctly done id2: correctly done id3: nothing done (except a "." written into the field) I cannot get strings working, neither from string to string nor (as above) trying to transform an integer to a string. I tried different ways, nothing worked. Consulting the Wiki was not revelatory. Dates constructed from date components (with 1 or more components set to missing, and then making approximations) also work impeccably. Floats not yet tested. -- Hans L Rieder, MD, MPH Jetzikofenstr 12 3038 Kirchlindach Switzerland Tel: +41 31 829 4577 Mob: +41 79 321 9122 Web: http://www.tbrieder.org

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Can I "tell" RELATE how many children records to create for a specific household
by epidata-list＠lists.umanitoba.ca 14 Jul '13

14 Jul '13

I have a household survey that asks the head of the household several general questions and then also interviews all women of reproductive age within that household. The number of eligible women can thus range from 0 to several. Is there a way in Epi Data to essentially tell the program that there will be 2 women's records for household A and 3 womens records in household B, and so on. I remember in Epi Info (dos) we could specify the number of "children" records in the KEY UNIQUE field (if I put a "2" on that line then after 2 "childrens' records were created then Epi would bounce back to the main rec file. Thanks for any suggestions. Conrad

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PS to: Experimental Manager and Entry Client version with before/after entry scripts available
by epidata-list＠lists.umanitoba.ca 10 Jul '13

10 Jul '13

Excuses, I managed to send the former mail too early: The EntryClient should be version: Program Version: 1.5.0.10 r292 But there are as well versions for Linux, Mac and Windows. Please experiment with these new principles and report. The release of the experimental script version and the former announced public version release: 1.4.2 also indicates a break in development from now until beginning of September 2013. But please keep discussing and asking questions on this list as they will be collected and handled - if serious also fixed before September. The script language is explained here: Wiki: http://epidata.info/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=techdocs:scripting:start A few aspects are still not on the wiki, but will come within some days, e.g. the function now() returns the time at the point of invoking the function. Could be used e.g. to record the starting time of entering data into a new record. Other functions are also on the way such as IsNewRecord() - which will test if the current record has been saved. But please note that this in the experimental section, such that for specific names of functions always look in the wiki if a given function does not work or is not found. Regards Jens Lauritsen EpiData Association

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SV: Re: [EpiData-list] PS to: Experimental Manager and Entry Client version with before/after entry scripts available
by epidata-list＠lists.umanitoba.ca 06 Jul '13

06 Jul '13

Dear Jean-Marie. We have deliberately chosen to make the programs behave the way it does, concerning the mouse. The reason behind this, is that in most scenarios a user creates a database, based on a questionnaire. This questionnaire has a well defined flow (usually top-left to bottom-right), perhaps with some diversion, eg. skipping some fields if it makes no sense to enter based on previous values. This flow is the same we wish to keep in Manager and EntryClient. And if a user the have to use the mouse, this is typically because an error has been made. Hence the use needs to exit the current field, without any validation is done and script is run. This was actually a flaw in the old EpiData Entry program, where the flow was not well defined. That is, if a user clicked with the mouse the behaviour could lead to an error or even worse some undefined state. Kind regards, Torsten Bonde Christiansen. EpiData Association. Sendt fra min Xperia™-tablet-pc epidata-list(a)lists.umanitoba.ca skrev: >Hello, > >THANKS, This new functionnality is really very exciting! >I made some tests and it's very easy to use. > >A great improvment would be the activation of "before entry" and "after >entry" action when the next field is directly selected using the mouse. > >In modern UI, users tend to navigate from field to field using the mouse >instead using the keyboard. Thus scripts are not fired if users use the >mouse and it breaks the logic behind the scripts. > >Best regards > >Jean-Marie Chrétien >CHU d'Angers - DRCI >Cellule Méthodo/Biostat/Data >Maison de la Recherche >4 rue Larrey >49933 ANGERS Cedex 9 > > > >2013/7/5 <epidata-list(a)lists.umanitoba.ca> > >> Excuses, I managed to send the former mail too early: >> >> The EntryClient should be version: Program Version: 1.5.0.10 r292 >> But there are as well versions for Linux, Mac and Windows. >> >> Please experiment with these new principles and report. >> >> The release of the experimental script version and the former announced >> public version release: 1.4.2 also indicates a break in development from >> now until beginning of September 2013. >> >> But please keep discussing and asking questions on this list as they will >> be collected and handled - if serious also fixed before September. >> >> The script language is explained here: >> >> Wiki: >> http://epidata.info/dokuwiki/**doku.php?id=techdocs:**scripting:start<http://epidata.info/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=techdocs:scripting:start> >> >> A few aspects are still not on the wiki, but will come within some days, >> e.g. the function now() returns the time at the point of invoking the >> function. Could be used e.g. to record the starting time of entering data >> into a new record. Other functions are also on the way such as >> IsNewRecord() - which will test if the current record has been saved. But >> please note that this in the experimental section, such that for specific >> names of functions always look in the wiki if a given function does not >> work or is not found. >> >> Regards >> >> Jens Lauritsen >> EpiData Association >> >> >> ______________________________**_________________ >> EpiData-list mailing list >> EpiData-list(a)lists.umanitoba.**ca <EpiData-list(a)lists.umanitoba.ca> >> http://lists.umanitoba.ca/**mailman/listinfo/epidata-list<http://lists.umanitoba.ca/mailman/listinfo/epidata-list> >> >_______________________________________________ >EpiData-list mailing list >EpiData-list(a)lists.umanitoba.ca >http://lists.umanitoba.ca/mailman/listinfo/epidata-list

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Epidata Analysis
by epidata-list＠lists.umanitoba.ca 06 Jul '13

06 Jul '13

Hello, For the last version of EPIDATA ANALYSIS (24 May 2013) : - the first veiwer screen is black (it changes after le first commands..) : why ? - in Help, I don't find for the tables command : /t, /c, /o, /r.. Why ? Ok I seen "set statistics="OR CHI...", but I have a message error. - Idem for epitables or etab command, I have a message error. Thank you for your help. Bernard BRANGER, Nantes, France PS : the new link for "Course Materials in Franch" is : http://www.reseau-naissance.fr/module-pagesetter-viewpub-tid-2-pid-28.html Thank you

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Experimental Manager and Entry Client version with before/after entry scripts available
by epidata-list＠lists.umanitoba.ca 05 Jul '13

05 Jul '13

Whereas the former mail concerned the public production version, this mail is an exciting additional feature to be tested by users. Assume you have a special situation where you need to do a particular calculation to show the entry person, e.g. calculation of BMI or the summation of 10 items for an index. With the experimental version now available from: http://www.epidata.dk/testing.php You can create such scripts. Attached is an example file using integers. Example script is: if V1 = 4 then goto V3 missing else if V1 = 3 then goto V3 clear; Another example: V4 := V1 + V2 + V3 ; V5 := V1*V2*V3; Notice that the way the syntax is written resembles pascal, which is a deliberate choice. We have tried a few other variants, including R, but too many problems were created at the implementation. The syntax is intended to be implemented in exactly the same way later in Analysis, once this software has also been rewritten. Quite many functions are already implemented. These are explained on the wiki page: Users are encouraged to work over the next months challenging the scripting engine. And discuss on this list if the new scripting engine is too experimental or of actual use. To write a script: 1 add a field in Manager version : Program Version: 1.5.0.10 r684 2 hightligh that field and hit Enter button 3 on the tab pages of the properties of the field you will see a tab page next to "notes" saying script. this is where you write your scripts. 4 then save the file and open in EntryClient which MUST be the experimental version as well: EpiData Entry Client Program Version: 1.5.0.10 r292 Core version: 1.5 r767 FPC Version: 2.6.2 Platform: x86_64-Linux

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