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Some more comments about Label name
by epidata-list＠lists.umanitoba.ca 27 Jan '13

27 Jan '13

Dear Jens Lauritsen, I have 2 more comments for the newly released versions 1.3.0.11: 1. We can not edit (i.e. rename / copy / paste) the name of the value label, only add and delete available. 2. The “Show field names” option should align the variable name to the left of the line. It will be easy for the users to find a variable they want. Best regards, Truc Thai Thanh Truc (♂), MPH Department of Biostatistics - Faculty of Public Health - HCMC University of Medicine and Pharmacy Email: thaithanhtruc(a)gmail.com or thaithanhtruc(a)fphhcm.edu.vn or thai(a)connect.qut.edu.au Mobile: +84 908 381 266 -----Original Message----- From: epidata-list-bounces(a)lists.umanitoba.ca [mailto:epidata-list-bounces@lists.umanitoba.ca] On Behalf Of epidata-list-request(a)lists.umanitoba.ca Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 1:03 AM To: epidata-list(a)lists.umanitoba.ca Subject: EpiData-list Digest, Vol 111, Issue 7 Send EpiData-list mailing list submissions to epidata-list(a)lists.umanitoba.ca To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.umanitoba.ca/mailman/listinfo/epidata-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to epidata-list-request(a)lists.umanitoba.ca You can reach the person managing the list at epidata-list-owner(a)lists.umanitoba.ca When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of EpiData-list digest..." EpiData-list mailing list ___________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Epidata Manager / Calculate (epidata-list(a)lists.umanitoba.ca) 2. Re: Epidata Manager / Calculate (epidata-list(a)lists.umanitoba.ca) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 15:35:19 +0100 From: epidata-list(a)lists.umanitoba.ca Subject: [EpiData-list] Epidata Manager / Calculate To: <epidata-list(a)lists.umanitoba.ca> Message-ID: <5de7fbc8f3cfa67743a8fdbcc26677b0(a)mwinf5d41.me-wanadoo.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello, I have two questions and I want to understand the design "EpiData Manager". - I have three variables: "Date of birth mother" (date) "Date of delivery" (date) "Age (the mother in childbirth)" (numeric). In the "Edit/Calculate" of "Age" variable, I do not find the variable "Age". But I find the calculation of "Age" in the "Edit/Calculate" of "Date of birth mother" and "Date of delivery". It is anti-educational and very intriguing for me. - In the "Edit/Calculate", I cannot find time difference, but fractions of a day. Is this expected ? Otherwise why not put a program each variable like in "Check" in the old "Epidata Entry"? In the current state, for during my very frequent EpiData lessons, I do not recommend new programs and I keep the old EpiData Entry.... Sorry Best regards. Bernard BRANGER, Nantes, France ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 17:18:17 +0100 From: epidata-list(a)lists.umanitoba.ca Subject: Re: [EpiData-list] Epidata Manager / Calculate To: epidata-list(a)lists.umanitoba.ca Message-ID: <510401C9.4010905(a)epidata.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hello Bernard I am sure we will get the new software to work appropriately and your comment and observation is very welcomed. Obviously we need to be open to criticism, but also to take appropriate decisions during the development. And until now there has been so many other aspects to take care of that the implementation of a chk command language has not been possible. The specific question you have in relation to age at birth can be solved like this: a. add the variables/fields (dates) to be included in the calculation e.g. : two date fields: dbirth "date of birth mother", dchild "Date of giving birth to the child" one integer: age b. now move the cursor to the field where you would like to have the calculation done. Here: dchild (this would be the same as where you in the old software would put the "AFTER ENTRY ....END" block d You then specify the calculation under properties for that field. d1 Specify result as "age" field and base the calculation on: dchild - dbirth d2 Specify "return value" as "years" Since we are not using time fields for age here, just omit specification of these. If you can give more examples of your reasons for "not suggesting to use the new versions" please let us know. regards Jens Lauritsen On 01/26/2013 03:35 PM, epidata-list(a)lists.umanitoba.ca wrote: > Hello, > I have two questions and I want to understand the design "EpiData Manager". > > - I have three variables: "Date of birth mother" (date) "Date of delivery" > (date) "Age (the mother in childbirth)" (numeric). > In the "Edit/Calculate" of "Age" variable, I do not find the variable "Age". > But I find the calculation of "Age" in the "Edit/Calculate" of "Date > of birth mother" and "Date of delivery". It is anti-educational and > very intriguing for me. > > - In the "Edit/Calculate", I cannot find time difference, but > fractions of a day. Is this expected ? Otherwise why not put a > program each variable like in "Check" in the old "Epidata Entry"? > > In the current state, for during my very frequent EpiData lessons, I > do not recommend new programs and I keep the old EpiData Entry.... > Sorry Best regards. > > Bernard BRANGER, Nantes, France > > _______________________________________________ > EpiData-list mailing list > EpiData-list(a)lists.umanitoba.ca > http://lists.umanitoba.ca/mailman/listinfo/epidata-list > ------------------------------ ________________________________________ EpiData-list(a)lists.umanitoba.ca http://lists.umanitoba.ca/mailman/listinfo/epidata-list End of EpiData-list Digest, Vol 111, Issue 7 ********************************************

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Epidata Manager / Calculate
by epidata-list＠lists.umanitoba.ca 26 Jan '13

26 Jan '13

Hello, I have two questions and I want to understand the design "EpiData Manager". - I have three variables: "Date of birth mother" (date) "Date of delivery" (date) "Age (the mother in childbirth)" (numeric). In the "Edit/Calculate" of "Age" variable, I do not find the variable "Age". But I find the calculation of "Age" in the "Edit/Calculate" of "Date of birth mother" and "Date of delivery". It is anti-educational and very intriguing for me. - In the "Edit/Calculate", I cannot find time difference, but fractions of a day. Is this expected ? Otherwise why not put a program each variable like in "Check" in the old "Epidata Entry"? In the current state, for during my very frequent EpiData lessons, I do not recommend new programs and I keep the old EpiData Entry.... Sorry Best regards. Bernard BRANGER, Nantes, France

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Should I use epidata entry or epidata manager
by epidata-list＠lists.umanitoba.ca 25 Jan '13

25 Jan '13

Dearl all: I have been using epidata entry for some time, but I never wrote to the mailing list before. I am about to start a new project and was wondering whether I should keep using epidata entry or switch to epidata manager, after read the announce on the download website: "The EpiData Database Manager (short:EpiData Manager) will replace current EpiData Entry for database and data documentation management, such as development of new data files, modifying structures, documentation etc." Specifically, I would be pleased if you can advice me about: 1) how stable is EpiData Manager in comparisson with Entry (particularly the linux version). 2) Are the new features in Manager worthy enough to switch. 3) Shall I have to learn it all over again (is it too different) 4) My project is essentially the final version of a previous pilot study, the questionnaires I used were modified, but a substantial part of them weren't modified. I was planning to adapt my old .qes and .chk files for this project. Is this possible if I switch to manager? Thank you very much for your attention and kind regards Nicolás Montalva.

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Re: EpiData-list Digest, Vol 111, Issue 1
by epidata-list＠lists.umanitoba.ca 10 Jan '13

10 Jan '13

Dear Nicolás, Nice that you use the mailing list. To add just few lines on Jamie's suggestions. Use the EpiData Entry (classic) for your serious project until the all functions are implemented in the Data Manager (just to avoid frustration going through each variable to add the check, work that you have already done). Unless that you can import the check file too with your rec.file. 2) Are the new features in Manager worthy enough to switch. J) If you are not using related files or calculations within your .chk file, the answer is yes. Those two features are not yet implemented. T) For time saving in designing form: yes, you can copy and paste your text from MS Word/Notepad into EpiData Manager and move easily the fields. 3) Shall I have to learn it all over again (is it too different) J) Not that different; the concepts are the same. T) Very intuitive, you are not going to spend much time on finding out how it is easy to use the EpiData Manager. 4) My project is essentially the final version of a previous pilot study, the questionnaires I used were modified, but a substantial part of them weren't modified. I was planning to adapt my old .qes and .chk files for this project. Is this possible if I switch to manager? J) You can import your existing .rec files, including data, and then modify your project entry screen; or you could start from scratch. It is worth figuring out how to create new fields with the shortcut keys. T) Yes it is possible, but you can copy and paste the text from questionnaire (.qes) then setting your check in the appropriate fields (where you will spend some times doing it for each variable). My suggestion is that you stick to the old version then modify or add few variables/check for your project. After that you can continue exploring how to use the new version and see its functionality during your spare time (if any). I hope this helps Tieble On 7 January 2013 18:00, <epidata-list-request(a)lists.umanitoba.ca> wrote: > Nicolás Montalva

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Re: [EpiData-list] Should I use epidata entry or epidata manager
by epidata-list＠lists.umanitoba.ca 09 Jan '13

09 Jan '13

Thanks Jamie, I'm afraid I'll have to keep using entry, my .chk files include both related files and calculations. Kind regards, Nicolás Montalva.

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Importing data to Epidata analysis
by epidata-list＠lists.umanitoba.ca 09 Jan '13

09 Jan '13

Dear all, I would like to import data from the clipboard to Epidata analysis but it is not working. The data is in excel; I select and copy the range of cells that I need to import to Epidata analysis With Epidata analysis I select import from clipboard in the file drop down menu but i get the message below: "Separators: (tab: 7153)(semicolon: 0)(comma: 0)(space: 0) Lines: 14753 Cannot define number of variables" What could I be doing wrong? WK

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EntryClient and Manager for Android
by epidata-list＠lists.umanitoba.ca 01 Jan '13

01 Jan '13

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new testversion - prerelease - of EpiData Manager and EntryClient
by epidata-list＠lists.umanitoba.ca 23 Dec '12

23 Dec '12

Dear all A new version for testing was uploaded yesterday. The intention was that all issues have been adressed such that in the beginning of 2013 we can change the uploaded version to a general production version. Please find the updated versions at http://www.epidata.dk/testing.php Changes are as follows: Manager: * Updated designer form (moved icons) * Updated shortcuts on keyboard etc. to correct wiki. * Simplified import and add structure to a single method. * Pasting fields and sections is adapted to shift 20,20 pixels from original position. * Export forms adapted for (hopefully) more intuitive action. * If you open EntryClient from within Manager the user is asked if project should close and open in entryclient. * A new field attribute on automatic time fields to allow for three assets: set at new record, set on first save and save on update/edit * Recent files list is shared between Manager and EntryClient * Installation is now operating system specific and NOT dependent on java. Please test in the following 1-2 weeks and in the first week of 2013 we will fix any reported issue before releasing this version as the next public release. Regards and best seasonal wishes to all Jens Lauritsen Torsten Christiansen EpiData Association, Denmark

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problems with import/export to stata
by epidata-list＠lists.umanitoba.ca 21 Dec '12

21 Dec '12

Hi Hope to get some help with a few problems. I'm a new epidata user and have downloaded manager v1.1.2 and entry v 1.1.1.1 - seemed to be the newest reliable version. Please correct me if wrong. I need to import some basic data from stata, add new variables in epidata, enter data and export it back to stata. So far importing data works fine, it's ok adding new variables and clicking "tools" - "export to stata" and "ok" works too. But back in stata the storage format has been change in some of my original data (eg string %10s - changed to %207s), and as well in some of the newly defined. Also missing data is in some cases "." in other ".z". I'm using stata 11 or 12 and have tried correcting the settings in "edit" - "settings" - "export" and "field definitions". It's not too deficult making it to a correct format while in stata - it's just a bit annoying. But whats worse - I tired importing it back to epidata again - making a few changes and then exporting to stata once more and then some of the storage types had completely changed - eg integer to float. Any suggestions? I downloaded epidata 3.1 as well but it does not seem to be compatible with importing stata newer than version 8. Any suggestions would be much appreciated! Anne

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Comments for new released EpiData Manager 1.3
by epidata-list＠lists.umanitoba.ca 20 Dec '12

20 Dec '12

Dear EpiData list, After spending a whole day to explore the newly released EpiData Manager and EpiData EntryClient, I have some comments: 1. The new EpiData Manager is not as flexible as the older version in which I can add code for check file. For example, I cannot use EpiData Manager to calculate BMI. Or if I have 10 questions about mental health then I have no way to calculate the total score. The patients in some studies should be referred to psychiatrist if they have a mental health score > cutoff point at the time of assessment. There should be “EDIT” like the olde version. 2. Another example to show that “EDIT” to check data entry should be included. In the old EpiData, I can add some codes to do extra things. Ex: when I enter postal code for Vietnam, the city/province variable includes only cities or provinces in Vietnam. Or if I enter postal code for Australia, the city/province variable only has option to choose among Australian cities. No way to do this in this version. 3. I can enter data using Unicode font but when I export the data to CSV or STATA…, they do not work. It does not appear correctly (Vietnamese). 4. I love the way the old Epidata align fields because the variable names are aligned to the right of the screen. 5. The undo, redo symbol should be on the menu bar as users may need them 6. In Epidata Manager, Tools > EpiData EntryClient should open the form that users are working on. This is because the data manager will need to look at the format of the data entry form or want to test the form. 7. The Tools > Report should have an option for “code book” as we may need it to check the data. In the old version, the code book includes information about the mean, … 8. If the double entry file has password, then “Incorrect Password” message appears when validating data. No box appear for entering password in this case. 9. In the old EpiData, we can create parent-child data file which is very helpful in community survey or longitudinal data with the same baseline information. I cannot do this in this new version. I have some year experience teaching EpiData at the university, so I am happy to be the tester or to contribute something to this very interesting and helpful version. Thank you, Truc Thai Thanh Truc (♂), MPH Department of Biostatistics - Faculty of Public Health - HCMC University of Medicine and Pharmacy Email: <mailto:thaithanhtruc@gmail.com> thaithanhtruc(a)gmail.com or <mailto:thaithanhtruc@fphhcm.edu.vn> thaithanhtruc(a)fphhcm.edu.vn or <mailto:thai@connect.qut.edu.au> thai(a)connect.qut.edu.au Mobile: +84 908 381 266

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