Dear all
As you can see in the recent days communication on the list aspects of
the "relate" system has been tested and in a collaborating process btw.
V. Høgli and T.Christiansen, the issue of a wrongly place information
window was clarified.
This is exactly the type of correspondence which is helpful to the
development.
So therefore I encourage with time and interest in the future function
and stable software developed to take part. It does not mean that all
should spent days and weeks, but just a small exercise of say half an
hour twice a week is not much for each of you.
regards
Jens Lauritsen
EpiData Software Initiator and coordinator
Denmark
Torsten,
Seems you located the problem:-)
Funny though, the same phenomenon appears in Windows 7.
The "show all button" is greyed out, but the other fix - Selecting Edit -
Default windows position before I open any project, and then restart EDM
fixes the problem.
Glad if this testing can be useful.
Regards,
Vegard Høgli
Torsten Bonde Christiansen wrote:
> The reason why the program freeze at step 7) is because the window for
> "Define Key" appears
> outside your monitor. This happens due to a programming error from my side.
>
> You can see the window if you right-click the Manager icon in the dock
> and select "Show All...".
> ...
> An easy fix for this is to use the "Default window position" which will
> reset the position of ALL
> windows within EpiData Manager. Then the next time you click "Define
> Key" you should have
> the window positioned properly.
>
> Kind regards,
> Torsten Bonde Christiansen.
> EpiData Association.
>
>
>
> On 2014-07-22 23:48, epidata-list(a)lists.umanitoba.ca wrote:
> > "Then set as key" - embarrassed to admit - Still don't get it:
> > Here's exactly what I do:
> > 1. Define new project
> > 2. Save as myfile (even tried without save first)
> > 3. click on Dataform 1
> > 4. Define field name IDNO Integer length 4
> > 5. Apply, then close field properties pane
> > 6. Select IDNO field with select tool (small boxes appear enclosing
> > selected field)
> > 7. Click on Dataform button (or menu item) - then choose Define key
> > 8. Freeze - Nothing happens, not possible to define new dataform, not
> able
> > to save or edit field, have to kill process in program manager (windows),
> > small green plus sign when hovering mouse over field (OSX).
> >
> > Where do I go wrong? anyway: apparent program freeze should be replaced
> by
> > error message if I do something in the wrong order, like for example:
> when
> > I tried to add a child dataform first, i get the error message: must
> create
> > at least one key first.
> >
> > Vegard
> >
> >
> >> on Jul 22, Jamie wrote:
> >>
> > I have not had this problem (OSX-Mavericks). On Dataform1, I define an
> >> integer field. Then set as key. add a related dataform and my key field
> >> shows up on the new form. When you add a field to Dataform1, the Relate
> tab
> >> appears. You have to define a related dataform firstThen ; then the
> Relate
> >> tab shows up.
> >>
> >> Jamie
> >>
> >>
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"Then set as key" - embarrassed to admit - Still don't get it:
Here's exactly what I do:
1. Define new project
2. Save as myfile (even tried without save first)
3. click on Dataform 1
4. Define field name IDNO Integer length 4
5. Apply, then close field properties pane
6. Select IDNO field with select tool (small boxes appear enclosing
selected field)
7. Click on Dataform button (or menu item) - then choose Define key
8. Freeze - Nothing happens, not possible to define new dataform, not able
to save or edit field, have to kill process in program manager (windows),
small green plus sign when hovering mouse over field (OSX).
Where do I go wrong? anyway: apparent program freeze should be replaced by
error message if I do something in the wrong order, like for example: when
I tried to add a child dataform first, i get the error message: must create
at least one key first.
Vegard
> on Jul 22, Jamie wrote:
>
I have not had this problem (OSX-Mavericks). On Dataform1, I define an
> integer field. Then set as key. add a related dataform and my key field
> shows up on the new form. When you add a field to Dataform1, the Relate tab
> appears. You have to define a related dataform firstThen ; then the Relate
> tab shows up.
>
> Jamie
>
>
Dear all,
can you help me?There is no any possibility to change the REC file to correspondence file in Epidata manager so that i can maintain the data without loosing data from rec.
regards
kusulla
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"Then set as key" - embarrassed to admit - Still don't get
it:
Here's exactly what I do:
1. Define new project
2. Save as myfile (even tried without save first)
3. click on Dataform 1
4. Define field name IDNO Integer length 4
5. Apply, then close field properties pane
6. Select IDNO field with select tool (small boxes appear
enclosing
selected field)
7. Click on Dataform button (or menu item) - then
choose Define key
8. Freeze - Nothing happens, not possible to define new
dataform, not able
to save or edit field, have to kill process in program
manager (windows),
small green plus sign when hovering mouse over field (OSX).
Where do I go wrong? anyway: apparent program freeze should
be replaced by
error message if I do something in the wrong order, like for
example: when
I tried to add a child dataform first, i get the error
message: must create
at least one key first.
Vegard
> on Jul 22, Jamie wrote:
>
I have not had this problem (OSX-Mavericks). On Dataform1, I
define an
> integer field. Then set as key. add a related dataform
and my key field
> shows up on the new form. When you add a field to
Dataform1, the Relate tab
> appears. You have to define a related dataform
firstThen ; then the Relate
> tab shows up.
>
> Jamie
>
>
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Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 23:10:45 -0400
From: epidata-list(a)lists.umanitoba.ca
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You are doing this correctly. When I do this, I do not get
an error.
MacBook Pro (2009, Core 2 duo) with OSX 10.9.4 (Mavericks
with all current updates).
So you have to do a Force Quit on your Mac? Have you checked
the error logs to see if there is an error from EDM? I�e
seen some errors at times that have been useful.
Jamie
On Jul 22, 2014, Vegard wrote:
> "Then set as key" - embarrassed to admit - Still don't
get it:
> Here's exactly what I do:
> 1. Define new project
> 2. Save as myfile (even tried without save first)
> 3. click on Dataform 1
> 4. Define field name IDNO Integer length 4
> 5. Apply, then close field properties pane
> 6. Select IDNO field with select tool (small boxes
appear enclosing
> selected field)
> 7. Click on Dataform button (or menu item) - then
choose Define key
> 8. Freeze - Nothing happens, not possible to define new
dataform, not able
> to save or edit field, have to kill process in program
manager (windows),
> small green plus sign when hovering mouse over field
(OSX).
>
> Where do I go wrong? anyway: apparent program freeze
should be replaced by
> error message if I do something in the wrong order,
like for example: when
> I tried to add a child dataform first, i get the error
message: must create
> at least one key first.
>
> Vegard
>
>
>> on Jul 22, Jamie wrote:
>>
>
> I have not had this problem (OSX-Mavericks). On
Dataform1, I define an
>> integer field. Then set as key. add a related
dataform and my key field
>> shows up on the new form. When you add a field to
Dataform1, the Relate tab
>> appears. You have to define a related dataform
firstThen ; then the Relate
>> tab shows up.
>>
>> Jamie
>>
>>
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Jamie,
Actually, On the Mac (OSX 10.9.4, 8 GB RAM, i7), the program does not lock
completely: All menu items are greyed out except "Epidatamanager" with it's
submenu items i.e. Quit, so I can seemingly exit normally. But after trying
to select "define key" every other program action is blocked. I am not so
familiar with OSX, so browsing the system logs are not particularly
meaningful to me, but I can copy if necessary.
Similar problem in Windows 7, therefore I suspected trivial user error:
Program behaves normally until select "define key": Then everything locks
up. here the menu items are not greyed out. But clicking on "file" does not
open submenu, the "x" in upper right corner is not red and does not
respond, the program window is locked in position etc. However: in task
manager, the EpiData Manager is reported as "running"(!)
When terminating program in Task Manager, the enclosed EDM dialog box
appears. text says: "Cannot quit this program because it awaits response
from you. Click Cancel to go back to windows and check status of program,
or click exit to terminate the program immediately and lose all unsaved
data".
Hope this dialogue can be of use to Jens, also interesting to know if
anybody else have had similar problems.
vegard
Jamie wrote:
> So you have to do a Force Quit on your Mac? Have you checked the error
> logs to see if there is an error from EDM? I’ve seen some errors at times
> that have been useful.
>
> Jamie
>
>
Dear Jens,
I have downloaded and testet EDM and EDC v 2.0.0.0 RC1 both extended and
standard version, both Windows and OSX versions to test relational file
structure
I may have overlooked something obvious, but the program freezes when I try
to define an integer or string field as key on the first dataform on a new
project. I do not see te "relate" tab on the corresponding field
property menu. The clinical example in the package opens and works as
intended; on first opening the example file in Manager, the "relate" tab is
visible, on reopening the file the tab seems to be gone. On data entry, the
relate seems to work, though.
Tested most thoroughly on WIndows 7 preofessional 64 bit SP1 (both 64 bit
and 32 bit versions) on HP Intel i5 laptop, but seemingly same behaviour on
Macbook Pro retina mid 2012 wirh OSX Maverick.
Best regards,
Vegard Høgli
CMO, Skien kommune, Norway
On Jul 21, Jens wrote:
> In early August development and adaptation of the Relational
> experimental version will continue. It seems very few comments have been
> made on this list. From the download numbers it seems that about 250
> copies were downloaded since June 17th. Those having downloaded and
> tested please comment on the list before early August, where we will
> continue development.
>
> regards
>
> Jens Lauritsen
> EpiData Association
>
>
>
Dear all
Versions 1.4.4.6 of Manager and 1.4.4.4 og EntryClient were placed for
public download in early July.
Updated introduction manuals were placed on the web
(http://www.epidata.dk/download.php) in mid July. links:
http://epidata.dk/php/downloadc.php?file=epidatamanagerintro.pdfhttp://epidata.dk/php/downloadc.php?file=epidataentryclientintro.pdf
In early August development and adaptation of the Relational
experimental version will continue. It seems very few comments have been
made on this list. From the download numbers it seems that about 250
copies were downloaded since June 17th. Those having downloaded and
tested please comment on the list before early August, where we will
continue development.
regards
Jens Lauritsen
EpiData Association
Hello List,
is it possible to change not only the width but also the height of the
string field (manager)? Depending upon the number of characters the field is
widely increased to the right but not downward (no line break). However for
the data entry it would be better/easier if the field was to be increased
downward.
I need a field with 1000 characters! Is that too much?
regards,
Marita
Dear all
I am a user of epidata software since 2012 so now I want to add some questions to my questionaire when a add it when I reverse the data to my rec file it tells me that once I will reverse the data it loose some data to my database so what can I do so that I can edit and add some question to my questionare without any loose of data to my database.
Regards,
KUSULLA