July 2014 - EpiData-list - University of Manitoba Mailing Lists

Which type of testing is good for securing stable software and enhance development ?
by epidata-list＠lists.umanitoba.ca 30 Jul '14

30 Jul '14

Dear all As you can see in the recent days communication on the list aspects of the "relate" system has been tested and in a collaborating process btw. V. Høgli and T.Christiansen, the issue of a wrongly place information window was clarified. This is exactly the type of correspondence which is helpful to the development. So therefore I encourage with time and interest in the future function and stable software developed to take part. It does not mean that all should spent days and weeks, but just a small exercise of say half an hour twice a week is not much for each of you. regards Jens Lauritsen EpiData Software Initiator and coordinator Denmark

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Re: EpiData-list Digest, Vol 129, Issue 9
by epidata-list＠lists.umanitoba.ca 30 Jul '14

30 Jul '14

Torsten, Seems you located the problem:-) Funny though, the same phenomenon appears in Windows 7. The "show all button" is greyed out, but the other fix - Selecting Edit - Default windows position before I open any project, and then restart EDM fixes the problem. Glad if this testing can be useful. Regards, Vegard Høgli Torsten Bonde Christiansen wrote: > The reason why the program freeze at step 7) is because the window for > "Define Key" appears > outside your monitor. This happens due to a programming error from my side. > > You can see the window if you right-click the Manager icon in the dock > and select "Show All...". > ... > An easy fix for this is to use the "Default window position" which will > reset the position of ALL > windows within EpiData Manager. Then the next time you click "Define > Key" you should have > the window positioned properly. > > Kind regards, > Torsten Bonde Christiansen. > EpiData Association. > > > > On 2014-07-22 23:48, epidata-list(a)lists.umanitoba.ca wrote: > > "Then set as key" - embarrassed to admit - Still don't get it: > > Here's exactly what I do: > > 1. Define new project > > 2. Save as myfile (even tried without save first) > > 3. click on Dataform 1 > > 4. Define field name IDNO Integer length 4 > > 5. Apply, then close field properties pane > > 6. Select IDNO field with select tool (small boxes appear enclosing > > selected field) > > 7. Click on Dataform button (or menu item) - then choose Define key > > 8. Freeze - Nothing happens, not possible to define new dataform, not > able > > to save or edit field, have to kill process in program manager (windows), > > small green plus sign when hovering mouse over field (OSX). > > > > Where do I go wrong? anyway: apparent program freeze should be replaced > by > > error message if I do something in the wrong order, like for example: > when > > I tried to add a child dataform first, i get the error message: must > create > > at least one key first. > > > > Vegard > > > > > >> on Jul 22, Jamie wrote: > >> > > I have not had this problem (OSX-Mavericks). On Dataform1, I define an > >> integer field. Then set as key. add a related dataform and my key field > >> shows up on the new form. When you add a field to Dataform1, the Relate > tab > >> appears. You have to define a related dataform firstThen ; then the > Relate > >> tab shows up. > >> > >> Jamie > >> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > EpiData-list mailing list > > EpiData-list(a)lists.umanitoba.ca > > http://lists.umanitoba.ca/mailman/listinfo/epidata-list > > > > ------------------------------ > > ________________________________________ > EpiData-list(a)lists.umanitoba.ca > http://lists.umanitoba.ca/mailman/listinfo/epidata-list > > > End of EpiData-list Digest, Vol 129, Issue 9 > ******************************************** >

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Auto Response
by epidata-list＠lists.umanitoba.ca 29 Jul '14

29 Jul '14

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Re: EpiData-list Digest, Vol 129, Issue 5
by epidata-list＠lists.umanitoba.ca 29 Jul '14

29 Jul '14

"Then set as key" - embarrassed to admit - Still don't get it: Here's exactly what I do: 1. Define new project 2. Save as myfile (even tried without save first) 3. click on Dataform 1 4. Define field name IDNO Integer length 4 5. Apply, then close field properties pane 6. Select IDNO field with select tool (small boxes appear enclosing selected field) 7. Click on Dataform button (or menu item) - then choose Define key 8. Freeze - Nothing happens, not possible to define new dataform, not able to save or edit field, have to kill process in program manager (windows), small green plus sign when hovering mouse over field (OSX). Where do I go wrong? anyway: apparent program freeze should be replaced by error message if I do something in the wrong order, like for example: when I tried to add a child dataform first, i get the error message: must create at least one key first. Vegard > on Jul 22, Jamie wrote: > I have not had this problem (OSX-Mavericks). On Dataform1, I define an > integer field. Then set as key. add a related dataform and my key field > shows up on the new form. When you add a field to Dataform1, the Relate tab > appears. You have to define a related dataform firstThen ; then the Relate > tab shows up. > > Jamie > >

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Re: EpiData-list Digest, Vol 129, Issue 6
by epidata-list＠lists.umanitoba.ca 24 Jul '14

24 Jul '14

Dear all, can you help me?There is no any possibility to change the REC file to correspondence file in Epidata manager so that i can maintain the data without loosing data from rec. regards kusulla -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 7/23/14, epidata-list-request(a)lists.umanitoba.ca <epidata-list-request(a)lists.umanitoba.ca> wrote: Subject: EpiData-list Digest, Vol 129, Issue 6 To: epidata-list(a)lists.umanitoba.ca Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2014, 5:00 PM Send EpiData-list mailing list submissions to epidata-list(a)lists.umanitoba.ca To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.umanitoba.ca/mailman/listinfo/epidata-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to epidata-list-request(a)lists.umanitoba.ca You can reach the person managing the list at epidata-list-owner(a)lists.umanitoba.ca When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of EpiData-list digest..." EpiData-list mailing list ___________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. Re: EpiData-list Digest, Vol 129, Issue 5 (epidata-list(a)lists.umanitoba.ca) 2. Re: Re: EpiData-list Digest, Vol 129, Issue 5 (epidata-list(a)lists.umanitoba.ca) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 23:48:47 +0200 From: epidata-list(a)lists.umanitoba.ca Subject: [EpiData-list] Re: EpiData-list Digest, Vol 129, Issue 5 To: epidata-list(a)lists.umanitoba.ca Message-ID: <CAOcA-0i-C9NpbnLvEHvDYH28AXWD8vJLHOJVpSfvmSBF03Q_zg(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 "Then set as key" - embarrassed to admit - Still don't get it: Here's exactly what I do: 1. Define new project 2. Save as myfile (even tried without save first) 3. click on Dataform 1 4. Define field name IDNO Integer length 4 5. Apply, then close field properties pane 6. Select IDNO field with select tool (small boxes appear enclosing selected field) 7. Click on Dataform button (or menu item) - then choose Define key 8. Freeze - Nothing happens, not possible to define new dataform, not able to save or edit field, have to kill process in program manager (windows), small green plus sign when hovering mouse over field (OSX). Where do I go wrong? anyway: apparent program freeze should be replaced by error message if I do something in the wrong order, like for example: when I tried to add a child dataform first, i get the error message: must create at least one key first. Vegard > on Jul 22, Jamie wrote: > I have not had this problem (OSX-Mavericks). On Dataform1, I define an > integer field. Then set as key. add a related dataform and my key field > shows up on the new form. When you add a field to Dataform1, the Relate tab > appears. You have to define a related dataform firstThen ; then the Relate > tab shows up. > > Jamie > > ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 23:10:45 -0400 From: epidata-list(a)lists.umanitoba.ca Subject: Re: [EpiData-list] Re: EpiData-list Digest, Vol 129, Issue 5 To: EpiData List <epidata-list(a)lists.umanitoba.ca> Message-ID: <BLU436-SMTP21355C6BF27075164EC4EFDFE0(a)phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" You are doing this correctly. When I do this, I do not get an error. MacBook Pro (2009, Core 2 duo) with OSX 10.9.4 (Mavericks with all current updates). So you have to do a Force Quit on your Mac? Have you checked the error logs to see if there is an error from EDM? I�e seen some errors at times that have been useful. Jamie On Jul 22, 2014, Vegard wrote: > "Then set as key" - embarrassed to admit - Still don't get it: > Here's exactly what I do: > 1. Define new project > 2. Save as myfile (even tried without save first) > 3. click on Dataform 1 > 4. Define field name IDNO Integer length 4 > 5. Apply, then close field properties pane > 6. Select IDNO field with select tool (small boxes appear enclosing > selected field) > 7. Click on Dataform button (or menu item) - then choose Define key > 8. Freeze - Nothing happens, not possible to define new dataform, not able > to save or edit field, have to kill process in program manager (windows), > small green plus sign when hovering mouse over field (OSX). > > Where do I go wrong? anyway: apparent program freeze should be replaced by > error message if I do something in the wrong order, like for example: when > I tried to add a child dataform first, i get the error message: must create > at least one key first. > > Vegard > > >> on Jul 22, Jamie wrote: >> > > I have not had this problem (OSX-Mavericks). On Dataform1, I define an >> integer field. Then set as key. add a related dataform and my key field >> shows up on the new form. When you add a field to Dataform1, the Relate tab >> appears. You have to define a related dataform firstThen ; then the Relate >> tab shows up. >> >> Jamie >> >> > _______________________________________________ > EpiData-list mailing list > EpiData-list(a)lists.umanitoba.ca > http://lists.umanitoba.ca/mailman/listinfo/epidata-list > ------------------------------ ________________________________________ EpiData-list(a)lists.umanitoba.ca http://lists.umanitoba.ca/mailman/listinfo/epidata-list End of EpiData-list Digest, Vol 129, Issue 6 ********************************************

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Re: EpiData-list Digest, Vol 129, Issue 6
by epidata-list＠lists.umanitoba.ca 24 Jul '14

24 Jul '14

Jamie, Actually, On the Mac (OSX 10.9.4, 8 GB RAM, i7), the program does not lock completely: All menu items are greyed out except "Epidatamanager" with it's submenu items i.e. Quit, so I can seemingly exit normally. But after trying to select "define key" every other program action is blocked. I am not so familiar with OSX, so browsing the system logs are not particularly meaningful to me, but I can copy if necessary. Similar problem in Windows 7, therefore I suspected trivial user error: Program behaves normally until select "define key": Then everything locks up. here the menu items are not greyed out. But clicking on "file" does not open submenu, the "x" in upper right corner is not red and does not respond, the program window is locked in position etc. However: in task manager, the EpiData Manager is reported as "running"(!) When terminating program in Task Manager, the enclosed EDM dialog box appears. text says: "Cannot quit this program because it awaits response from you. Click Cancel to go back to windows and check status of program, or click exit to terminate the program immediately and lose all unsaved data". Hope this dialogue can be of use to Jens, also interesting to know if anybody else have had similar problems. vegard Jamie wrote: > So you have to do a Force Quit on your Mac? Have you checked the error > logs to see if there is an error from EDM? I’ve seen some errors at times > that have been useful. > > Jamie > >

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Re: EpiData-list Digest, Vol 129, Issue 4
by epidata-list＠lists.umanitoba.ca 22 Jul '14

22 Jul '14

Dear Jens, I have downloaded and testet EDM and EDC v 2.0.0.0 RC1 both extended and standard version, both Windows and OSX versions to test relational file structure I may have overlooked something obvious, but the program freezes when I try to define an integer or string field as key on the first dataform on a new project. I do not see te "relate" tab on the corresponding field property menu. The clinical example in the package opens and works as intended; on first opening the example file in Manager, the "relate" tab is visible, on reopening the file the tab seems to be gone. On data entry, the relate seems to work, though. Tested most thoroughly on WIndows 7 preofessional 64 bit SP1 (both 64 bit and 32 bit versions) on HP Intel i5 laptop, but seemingly same behaviour on Macbook Pro retina mid 2012 wirh OSX Maverick. Best regards, Vegard Høgli CMO, Skien kommune, Norway On Jul 21, Jens wrote: > In early August development and adaptation of the Relational > experimental version will continue. It seems very few comments have been > made on this list. From the download numbers it seems that about 250 > copies were downloaded since June 17th. Those having downloaded and > tested please comment on the list before early August, where we will > continue development. > > regards > > Jens Lauritsen > EpiData Association > > >

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news on versions and documentation
by epidata-list＠lists.umanitoba.ca 21 Jul '14

21 Jul '14

Dear all Versions 1.4.4.6 of Manager and 1.4.4.4 og EntryClient were placed for public download in early July. Updated introduction manuals were placed on the web (http://www.epidata.dk/download.php) in mid July. links: http://epidata.dk/php/downloadc.php?file=epidatamanagerintro.pdf http://epidata.dk/php/downloadc.php?file=epidataentryclientintro.pdf In early August development and adaptation of the Relational experimental version will continue. It seems very few comments have been made on this list. From the download numbers it seems that about 250 copies were downloaded since June 17th. Those having downloaded and tested please comment on the list before early August, where we will continue development. regards Jens Lauritsen EpiData Association

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EpiData Manager v1.4.4.6 -String fields
by epidata-list＠lists.umanitoba.ca 19 Jul '14

19 Jul '14

Hello List, is it possible to change not only the width but also the height of the string field (manager)? Depending upon the number of characters the field is widely increased to the right but not downward (no line break). However for the data entry it would be better/easier if the field was to be increased downward. I need a field with 1000 characters! Is that too much? regards, Marita

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Can you help me
by epidata-list＠lists.umanitoba.ca 01 Jul '14

01 Jul '14

Dear all I am a user of epidata software since 2012 so now I want to add some questions to my questionaire when a add it when I reverse the data to my rec file it tells me that once I will reverse the data it loose some data to my database so what can I do so that I can edit and add some question to my questionare without any loose of data to my database. Regards, KUSULLA

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